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Or what are some good dog foods with high quality grain? Also is purina bad for my dog? Because thats all ive been feeding her along with canned tuna 1-2 times a week.

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Chix

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I don't have 100% confidence that grains are bad for a dog. In fact, I've home cooked for years and fed rice to my dog along with protein .

The problem I have with pet food that contains grain is not that its in there - its that many so called premium AND grocery store pet food do not actually contain the actual grain or kernel - so you are not buying grain - you are buying husks, or the parts of the grain they throw away with little to no nutritional value.

Its fake grain. Worse, since around the early 1990's, its Fake Genetically Modified Organism (GMO) grain - which means the grain is not a grain, but a fish, that looks like a grain (if you think I'm kidding, research Monsanto). Same for soybeans - the World according to Monsanto is a great documentary to watch on You Tube. Google Monsanto GMO and you will learn they have a huge vested interest in soybeans that are modified from fish, as well as corn, wheat and others.

These grains are literally resistant to herbicides - and Monsanto made them that way because Monsanto ALSO markets a very deadly herbicide (similar in organic structure to Agent Orange) called Round Up and its cheaper for a farmer to plant a grain resistant crop because they can load the field down with ROund Up which will kill the other plants (actually it kills anything ) EXCEPT the GMO crop.

POINT: Why on earth would anyone in their right mind want to feed a dog something even poison cannot kill?

So to circle back to your question - is grains good for dogs - YES, if they are real grains but NO they are not going to be found in any commercial dog food LEAST OF ALL PURINA.

On Purina specifically, bluntly speaking, outside of the grain issue, the problem I have with them is there definition of what constitutes actual "dog food". When a company can market products ranging from absolute garbage (Ol Roy which I affectionately call Ol shoe) to Purina Dog Chow (mostly garbage but maybe a few less shoes) to Kibbles and Bits (full of dyes and dubious other ingredients none of which are good for a dog mixed in with corn which again, is not even whole corn) to Pro Plan (which is the best they can do and its mediocre...or even Purina One which is Pro Plan with more chemicals and less dead diseased chicken)... I wonder what their mission statement reads.

Is it: Provide the public with the best quality commercial dog food money can buy with MINIMUM STANDARDS of NUTRITION AND COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY ON WHAT EACH FOOD CONTAINS OR

Throw shyte against the wall and hope it sticks.

I tend to feel its the latter.

How does the vet here explain that? Is Ol Roy food? By who's standard? Will they open their plant and provide the public with a thorough inspection on EXACTLY what is in that food because beyond that, I don't believe them. Its absolutely toxic to dogs.

Here's a review of Ol Roy ...note the definition of "wheat middlings" which (I quote)

QUOTE: In reality, middlings are nothing more than milling dust and floor sweepings. UNQUOTE

http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-r…

How can anyone take Purina seriously when it is clear they market to the masses -with formulations for every price point - with NO regard for nutrition. They may have the last laugh, because the more I read, the more I"m convinced Ol Roy is probably not more than 2 degrees worse than Pro Plan - the main difference in price attributed to the cost of the bag - the rest is margin.

Which brings me to standards and transparency - Purina have their own standards, which we are asked to believe, but they are not substantiated by any 3rd party.

There motto: Trust me.

While AAFCO is hardly the Good housekeeping seal of approval, Purina refuses to even make public their actual formulation so while I can read an AAFCO book and know pretty much the crap that is in dog food, I cannot even do that with Purina. Its all a big secret, and we the consumer as asked to believe them.

So bottom line: I don't feed Purina. I don't trust them. I don't care how many vets they pay. Paid employees who stand to loose their jobs if they speak out against their employer are not reliable sources. Its true of pet food, like it is with cars, dishwashers, and any other consumable item.

Long post to say: feed your dog the best quality food you can buy - and if you cannot afford human grade food 100% - then yes, supplement. Canned tuna is fine in moderation - but there is mercury in canned tuna, so I would prefer to supplement raw hamburger, and vary the protein. And also balance it with some raw cow hock bones (soup bones) which your dog will love.

If you can afford FROMM - buy it. I feed my own dogs the grain free Fromm and its pretty good, but the BEST food is food that you buy yourself, and make for your dog.

Here's a link to a book for more info.

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Thank you so much. I honestly appreciate your blunt-ness about the dog food industry. And I'm sure my dog is thankful too! Thanks again. Happy holidays!

P.S. there should be more people like you on Yahoo Answers. Half of these people don't know what they are talking about.....

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Dogs are very capable of deriving important nutrients from grains. Besides the obvious carbohydrate energy in grains, they also provide vitamins, essential fatty acids, amino acids for protein synthesis, minerals and needed soluble and insoluble fiber for good intestinal function.

Some pet food companies market against grains under the specious notion that wild dogs don't eat them or that the diet of a wild dog is somehow superior to that of a domestic dog that eats a prepared pet food containing grain.

That might be a nice "marketing" gimmick, but it does not hold up to the scrutiny of the science of animal nutrition. Purina makes many different products for many different types of dogs and cats and to appeal to many different types of consumers.

As a Veterinarian I have used Purina Veterinary Diets in my practice with great success for years and I recommend both Purina ONE and Pro Plan for healthy dogs and cats.I have fed my own dogs and cats Purina ONE for years with great success.

That being said there are many good brands of dog food out there and someone that criticizes one brand of food to reccommend another is usually parroting the party line of the marketing department of that brand of pet food.

If you are feeding a good quality product like the ones I've mentioned you don't need to supplement with canned tuna.

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http://www.purinaveterinarydiets.com/

http://www.purinaone.com/Public/Default.…

http://www.proplan.com/default.aspx

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Marianne, UDX,OTCH Shelties

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No need to feed grainfree unless your dog is allergic to grains. If he is doing just fine on Purina, stick with it. I used it with all my dogs when I was breeding Miniature Schnauzers and they were all healthy and lived long lives.

If for some reason grain free is necessary, one of the best ones, listed in the top kibbles by Whole Dog Journal, is Dick VanPattens grain-free Natural Balance. Petco and Petsmart both carry it.

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Tee

I have 4 dogs, dachshnuds, chiweenie and a chihuahua. The chihuahua eats Blue Bufallo Wilderness for small breed as the pieces are very tiny. The others eat Wellness Core. They are both 5 star grain free. I found them here :

http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/

This will help you tremendously in choosing.

It's amazing the changes you will see after switiching foods.

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♥ Marie ♥ Passion For Dogs

My two favorite grain free foods are ZiwiPeak and Orijen. I use both of these brands and they're the best I know. Other good grain free brands include Acana Grain Free, Nature's Variety Instinct, Before Grain, Wellness CORE, EarthBorn Holistic Grain Free, and EVO.

Purina won't kill your dog but I personally would never feed it. I also don't feed foods with grain in them because it's a waste. Dogs don't need them and I end up having to feed my dogs a lot more of the food if it has grains.

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Alison

If purina works for you and your dogs then its okay. Its not the greatest when it comes to quality.

Nutro has grain free, Blue Buffalo, (not crazy about the taste of the wild though), and Fromm has grain free but you can only get Fromm at certain stores which you would have to go to their website and see one near you that sells it.

The best I think is Fromm dog food. But that is my opinion.

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Julie D.

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Grain free foods: Natural Balance and Taste of the Wild. (I feed Taste of the Wild)

When it comes to a good limited grain food, I like Merrick.

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Jeeves

Orijen is the best dry food u can get.